For those of you who didn’t know you were lied to

So, in case you missed it, yes, we know, we were lied to, and have continually been lied to, about the Iraq war.
Here’s a couple snippets from the NYT article.

Most of the analysts have ties to military contractors vested in the very war policies they are asked to assess on air.


John C. Garrett is a retired Marine colonel and unpaid analyst for Fox News TV and radio. He is also a lobbyist at Patton Boggs who helps firms win Pentagon contracts, including in Iraq

At the same time, in e-mail messages to the Pentagon, Mr. Garrett displayed an eagerness to be supportive with his television and radio commentary. “Please let me know if you have any specific points you want covered or that you would prefer to downplay,” he wrote in January 2007, before President Bush went on TV to describe the surge strategy in Iraq.


A few expressed regret for participating in what they regarded as an effort to dupe the American public with propaganda dressed as independent military analysis.

“It was them saying, ‘We need to stick our hands up your back and move your mouth for you,’ ” Robert S. Bevelacqua, a retired Green Beret and former Fox News analyst, said.

Kenneth Allard, a former NBC military analyst who has taught information warfare at the National Defense University, said the campaign amounted to a sophisticated information operation. “This was a coherent, active policy,” he said.

As conditions in Iraq deteriorated, Mr. Allard recalled, he saw a yawning gap between what analysts were told in private briefings and what subsequent inquiries and books later revealed.

“Night and day,” Mr. Allard said, “I felt we’d been hosed.”

More than anything, this shows the absolute contempt the Bush Administration feels towards the people they serve.

But we knew that.

And how horrible the media is for helping them.

And we knew that too.

Well, some of us did.

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I really hadn’t thought about The Dark Knight this way

(I make reference to body counts below, a couple times. I am only referring to American dead. 4000. For the purpose of this post, we’ll forget about the astronomical number of Iraqis who have died in all this. The argument described below is based purely on how the troops, and the price they and their families pay, are being manipulated by the media and government.)

First, lets make it abundantly clear. The President’s people are not going to bring him around, very often, to families that want the war to end. They certainly won’t be getting any camera time.

Second, this is part of the stupidest argument people use to justify continuing the war. It is, like all good politics, aimed at your emotions.

People say things like “don’t let their deaths be in vain” or “Don’t dishonor our troops by bringing them home before the job is done”. While I do agree that any life that has been lost is a tragedy, we aren’t doing anything for the fallen soldiers by continuing the war (or not, for that matter). To be blunt, they are dead. They are, in fact, no longer a part of this world.

The “don’t dishonor our troops” is a very cheap shot. I am sorry that they might have to come home, their sacrifices having been in vain, perhaps. Their sense of honor besmirched. But if it comes down to therapy for a few thousand soldiers versus EVEN ONE MORE DEAD BODY, I’ve got the number for a few good shrinks. Hurt feelings and disappointments and such are not reasons to keep shooting.

Similarly, the ‘died in vain’ line translates to “please don’t let our loss be in vain” from the families and loved ones. I sympathize with these people, I truly do, regardless of their stance on the war. I can not imagine the pain of their loss.

But I would ask them this: If we left Iraq now, no more of our soldiers would die. No more sons, and daughters, and fathers and mothers coming home in body bags. If we stay in Iraq, more families will feel the same pain that you do. How many are you willing to let die in order to feel that your son’s death had meaning? How many families do you want to feel the same pain as you?

They forget that winning, if such a thing is possible and ever gets clearly defined, isn’t just about effort and determination. It is about blood and body parts spread out in the sand.

Daily Kos: State of the Nation

Most of the families of the fallen that he meets with have one request of the President, which is: Do not let my loved one’s sacrifice be in vain…Q Aren’t there also families of the bereaved who ask him to stop the war?

MS. PERINO: There have been, but the vast majority have all asked him not to allow that sacrifice to be in vain. But certainly there are some.

Q The “vast majority”? Can you say that with certainty?

MS. PERINO: Well, he has said that repeatedly, and that is true for the I think almost nearly a thousand families of the fallen that he’s met with.

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Cheney doesn’t care what the American people want. But, then again, what else is new

While I do understand that, sometimes, the government makes a commitment, or has to do unpopular things.
Thats fine and as it should be.
Cheney does go on to say, basically, that, when pressed. But the initial response is very telling about the absolute contempt this administration holds for the people who they were elected to serve.

The Raw Story | Asked about two thirds of Americans’ opposition to war, Cheney says, ‘So?’

Vice President Dick Cheney had a different message. Informed during a Good Morning America interview broadcast Wednesday that two-thirds of Americans now think the war was not worth fighting, Cheney said: “So?”

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I love when our politicians ignore the people they hire as experts

I understand that there’s a good reason that the military is run by civilians.
But two things seem apparent to me.
1. If we want to use the military, our civilian leaders should set the goals and parameters and then step the fuck back. Seriously. These men and women have spent their lives training and learning how to do this. Most people in the government haven’t ever even seen an ‘enemy unit’ except on TV. Let them do the job.
2. Then, when they give a military assessment, listen to them. Assume, and I know this is anathema both in D.C. and in the right-wing blogosphere, that they know better. Funny, I understand why thats the case in D.C., but the right-wing blogs? The whole essence of the conservative movement is authority. If you ignore these guys…ah well.

Crooks and Liars » McCain, Cheney reject Petraeus analysis of Iraq

Just four days ago, Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said that “no one” in the U.S. and Iraqi governments “feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation,” or in the provision of basic public services.

As it turns out, “no one” doesn’t include John McCain, who feels there’s been plenty of progress…

“Anybody who believes the surge has not succeeded, militarily, politically and in most other ways, frankly, does not know the facts on the ground.”

… nor does it include Dick Cheney, who apparently sees political progress Petraeus doesn’t.

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney on Monday declared the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq a “successful endeavor,” pointing to security and political progress on a visit ahead of the fifth anniversary of the war.

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Cheney: Are you living in a dream world or do you just hold us all in comtempt?

Dick, if there was ANY CONNECTION AT ALL between al-Qaeda and Saddam, don’t you think that, since the Pentagon really REALLY wants there to be a link in order to continue to justify this war, they’d highlight even the slightest, even the tiniest connections they could find? Don’t you think that the administration would have pushed those connections to the media instead of burying the report? Don’t you think that someone other than Hayes might have been able to take the report and form something reasonably coherent to solidify these ties?
Of course…maybe, just maybe, the Pentagon (professional soldiers, not professional draft dodgers) might realize that we are drowning, and so they are doing everything they can to get us out of a generation-long military commitment…
But who am I to speak…

The Raw Story | Cheney ties Iraq, al-Qaeda again after fielding question from his own official biographer

Reminded of the release last week of an exhaustive Pentagon report which concluded that there were no ties between Saddam Hussein and the terror network, Cheney answered, “Well, it says no operational link. But there was, as I recall from looking at it, extensive links with Egyptian Islamic Jihad. Egyptian Islamic Jihad was the organization headed by Zawahiri, and he merged EIJ with al-Qaeda when he became the deputy director of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden’s number two.

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Shockingly, the Republicans don’t give one rat’s ass about the troops.

No, this isn’t just a rumor.  And yes, this happened under the watch of those oh-so-patriotic members of the ChickenHawk-filled Republican Party.
Not only are they OK with sending other people’s kids off to die (Kiss my ass, Romney), but they are also OK with virtually poisoning them.

KBR/Halliburton did provide dirty water to U.S. troops in Iraq - AMERICAblog: A great nation deserves the truth

All of this happened under the watchful eyes of the Republicans who started this war. Bush let it happen. Cheney let it happen. McCain let it happen. Susan Collins and Joe Lieberman, who ran the Senate’s Oversight Committee, let it happen. They don’t support the troops. KBR didn’t fear consequences because the company’s friends were in power.

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